Freestone · Granite · Haute-Loire

Loire (Upper)

Loire (Upper) terrain map
Terrain map

The upper Loire, before it becomes the sand-flat river of French school geography, is a proper mountain stream.

Species

A proper day on the water

Low and clear — careful approach country. Stay small, stay accurate.

55% confidence in this read
Water temperature for grayling
Ideal
6°C est.ideal 414°C
0°14°28°
Why this score · for grayling
  • Temperature10028% weight
  • Flow6022% weight
  • Clarity8518% weight
  • Feeding Time1013% weight
  • Pressure807% weight
  • Prey Activity2512% weight
Conditions
Level
Dry recently
No gauge reading
Water temp
6.1°C
Estimated
Clarity
Clear
Air temp
5°C
Wind
W 5 km/h
Calm
Pressure
1017 hPa
Rain · 48h
1.0 mm
No meaningful rain
Rain · ahead
2.8 mm
Light rain · next 48h

Live readings — water temperature is an estimate where the gauge does not record it.

How to fish it · for grayling
When
Autumn through November prime.
Where
Faster runs in the middle and lower upper-Loire stretches.
Method
Euro-nymphing through the deeper pockets; switch to dries when sedges or olives come off in autumn afternoons.
Kit
10 ft #3 nymphing rod for the deep pockets; 9 ft #4 for dries. 4 to 5 lb fluoro tippet, 12 ft leader.
Why this works
Good conditions. Temperature is favourable (100), Feeding time is weakest (10).
Through the year
0–3 scale · May highlighted
J
F
M
A
M
J
J
A
S
O
N
D
Trout seasonSeason
1
2
2
2
2
2
1
Grayling seasonSeason
1
2
2
2
1
GrannomHatch
2
2
Evening SedgeHatch
2
3
3
3
2
Large Dark OliveHatch
1
2
2
1
Iron BlueHatch
1
2
2
1

Numbers are intensity 0 (none) to 3 (peak) — a guide, not a guarantee.

Permits & access
Permit required — see local rules.
  • AAPPMA permits.
Directions
About this water

The upper Loire, before it becomes the sand-flat river of French school geography, is a proper mountain stream. It rises on the Gerbier de Jonc in the Ardèche volcanic highlands and spends its first hundred kilometres as freestone granite water — pools, riffles, stony runs, the occasional deep corner where a proper fish might be holding. This is Haute-Loire country, high and exposed, the kind of water where you can fish an afternoon without seeing another angler and sometimes without seeing another human. The trout are wild and small-to-medium, the grayling modest but steady, and the hatches honest rather than famous — good Baetis through spring, caddis building from May, stoneflies in the faster runs. The water runs cold until late May because the altitude keeps it that way, so the season starts slowly and doesn't really hit its stride until the hawthorns are out. Nymph it in April and May, dry-fly it from June onwards, and accept that you are fishing for the place as much as for the fish. Nobody comes to the upper Loire to empty the water. You come because it is remote and honest and the river remembers what it is for.

  • Granite
Seasons & zones
  • Trout2nd Saturday of March → 3rd Sunday of September
  • Grayling3rd Saturday of May → 3rd Sunday of September
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