Freestone · Mixed · Haute-Savoie

Arve

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Arve

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The Arve is the river you fish because you're in Chamonix anyway and the Alps are doing their thing around you.

Poor · Brown Trout
Small Perdigón · 16-20
Poorlive now
Not the day for it
River temperature is the limiting factor today, not the flow. This is not the day to push it. Check the thermal advice above before you head out.
90% confidence
What moved it
  • LevelDry recentlyNo gauge reading
  • Water temp22.3°C
  • ClarityClear
Today’s fly
Small Perdigón
Small Perdigón16-20
Euro-nymph
Conditions on the water
Estimate
Level
Dry recently
No gauge reading
Water temp22.3°C
ClarityClear
Weather22°C
WindE 7 km/h
Pressure1018 hPa
Rain · recent0.2 mm
Rain · ahead23.4 mm

No gauge on this water — readings are regional estimates from weather, not a live gauge.

Water temperature for brown trout
Warm — slow
22°C est.ideal 1016°C
0°14°28°
How to fish it · for brown trout
When
Through the open trout season — once snowmelt drops. Mont Blanc-fed glacial influence means the Arve runs cold and clear once meltwater eases. Best from late June into autumn close.
Where
Pool tails and pocket water through the Haute-Savoie valley. Glacial-fed water reads cold and clear.
Method
Upstream dry to risers; dry-dropper through the riffles. The water reads clear — long leader, fine tippet. Move slowly, cast accurately.
Kit
9 ft #4 — French freestone default. Floating line, 12 ft leader to 4 to 5 lb fluoro. Studded boots.
Why this works
⛔ Water at 22.3°C. This is the line where catch-and-release kills brown trout. Do not fish for them today.
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Evidence
Survey-backed · regionalModerate confidence

Backed by regional invertebrate surveys; no sampling on this exact reach yet.

Through the year
0–3 scale · July highlighted
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GrannomHatch
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Evening SedgeHatch
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Alpine RhithrogenaHatch
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Large Dark OliveHatch
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Numbers are intensity 0 (none) to 3 (peak) — a guide, not a guarantee.

Ranked for today
Brown Trout fly box
What's coming
Plan ahead
5-day outlook
Cooler water nearby · 3
Probably above the brown trout safety line — these are likely cooler, but carry a thermometer.
Gallery · 2
  1. Photo of Arve
    Arve
  2. Terrain map of the venue
    Terrain map
About this water

The Arve is the river you fish because you're in Chamonix anyway and the Alps are doing their thing around you. The upper river runs glacially milky for most of the season, so it's the middle and lower reaches that fish properly — from about Sallanches down, where tributaries from the Giffre and the Bon Nant dilute the glacier-flour and the water clears enough to let you see your fly. Wild brown trout, mostly modest but with the occasional surprising fish from the deeper valley slips that remind you this was once serious water. Alpine tactics: heavy nymph through the pocket water, short-line approach, a willingness to move constantly. The river is spate-responsive and can carry colour for days after heavy rain or a warm afternoon on the glaciers. Prime window is June through September — the glaciers dictate rather than the calendar. Not an easy river, but one of the most atmospheric in the French Alps if you're willing to work out its timing.

  • Mixed
Water quality (WFD)
  • EcologyModerate
  • ChemicalUnknown

WFD classification · FRDR555A

The full read · show the working · for brown trout · confidence 90%
How the 10 is built — score × weight = contribution
Temperature5 × 28%1.4
Flow60 × 22%13.2
Clarity95 × 18%17.1
Feeding Time55 × 13%7.2
Pressure80 × 7%5.6
Insect activity43 × 12%5.2
Limiting factor: Water temperature (22.3°C) is outside Brown Trout's preferred range (10–16°C)= 50
Can you trust it?
Water temperatureair-to-water estimateestimated
Level / flowon-river gaugeobserved
Prey activitysurvey-backed invertebrate datasurvey
What would change the calculation
Cooler water — back toward the 10–16 °C ideal band — would lift the score and ease welfare.
The dawn and dusk windows score higher than the midday lull.
Directions
Seasons & zones
  • Trout2nd Saturday of March → 3rd Sunday of September
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