Freestone · Granite · Lozère / Haute-Loire

Allier (Upper, Langogne–Langeac)

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Above Langeac the Allier becomes a different river.

Species

A proper day on the water

Low and clear — careful approach country. Stay small, stay accurate.

50% confidence in this read
Water temperature for grayling
Ideal
5°C est.ideal 414°C
0°14°28°
Why this score · for grayling
  • Temperature10028% weight
  • Flow6022% weight
  • Clarity8518% weight
  • Feeding Time1013% weight
  • Pressure807% weight
  • Prey Activity1712% weight
Conditions
Level
Dry recently
No gauge reading
Water temp
5.2°C
Estimated
Clarity
Clear
Air temp
4°C
Wind
NW 11 km/h
Light breeze
Pressure
1018 hPa
Rain · 48h
0.0 mm
No meaningful rain
Rain · ahead
4.3 mm
Light rain · next 48h

Live readings — water temperature is an estimate where the gauge does not record it.

How to fish it · for grayling
When
Autumn into late autumn — September through November prime. The upper Allier's grayling water above Vichy is some of the best in central France.
Where
Faster gravel runs and the heads of riffles through the Auvergne headwaters. Deeper glide tails as autumn cold pushes fish deeper.
Method
Euro-nymphing through the deeper pockets is the daily default. Switch to dries on autumn afternoons when sedges and olives come off.
Kit
10 ft #3 nymphing rod for the deep pockets; 9 ft #4 for dries. 4 to 5 lb fluoro tippet, 12 ft leader.
Why this works
Good conditions. Temperature is favourable (100), Feeding time is weakest (10).
Through the year
0–3 scale · May highlighted
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F
M
A
M
J
J
A
S
O
N
D
Trout seasonSeason
1
2
2
2
2
2
1
Grayling seasonSeason
1
2
2
2
1
GrannomHatch
2
2
Evening SedgeHatch
2
3
3
3
2
Large Dark OliveHatch
1
2
2
1
Iron BlueHatch
1
2
2
1

Numbers are intensity 0 (none) to 3 (peak) — a guide, not a guarantee.

Gallery · 1
  1. Terrain map of the venue
    Terrain map
Permits & access
Permit required — see local rules.
  • AAPPMA Haute-Loire
  • Fly-only parcours in several reaches — verify locally.
Directions
About this water

Above Langeac the Allier becomes a different river. The gorge work starts — proper basalt-and-granite gorge, cut deep, with long pools and pocket water between them — and the salmon water gives way to trout and grayling country. This is the Haute-Loire reach, running up through Monistrol and Brioude and then up into the volcanic highlands of the Lozère, where the river is clear, cold, and stony, and the crowds of the Brioude salmon beats are a memory. The wild brown trout here are honest fish — six to twelve inches the general run, with the occasional surprise in the gorge pools that makes you pay attention. The grayling are steady and rise well to small olives from May onwards. The hatches are proper freestone work: Baetis through spring, building caddis from May, good stoneflies in the rough water, and enough March Brown action in the lower sections to remind you that this is still a significant river even when it is behaving like a small one. Fish it with nymph through April and the first half of May, shift to dry fly once the caddis are out, and accept that the best water takes commitment to reach. The Haute-Loire landscape is part of the bargain.

  • Granite
Seasons & zones
  • Trout2nd Saturday of March → 3rd Sunday of September
  • Grayling3rd Saturday of May → 3rd Sunday of September
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